my 2015 150cc TAOTAO Targa 150 thread: experiences, etc [Archive] - BuggyMasters.Com - An On Line Mini Buggy Forum and Go Kart Forum

mtbdudex

11-30-2015, 11:29 AM

This thread purpose is to chronicle my 2015 150cc TAO TAO Targa 150 experiences, etc.

Bought date: 11/16/2015
Our location: Howell, Michigan

Pictures from the dealer lot:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ADSGDK5WxAI/Vlvi1hF5_wI/AAAAAAAAXV0/f9I-ht-RiTY/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_01.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Dc4QqeMEcyY/Vlvi2b32AAI/AAAAAAAAXV8/QRQGQzn505M/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_04.jpg

Delivered to our home 11/23 6pm (dark already)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Rh7FEPVx3J0/Vlvi9xbbRXI/AAAAAAAAXWY/i7h6_sImQrY/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_35.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6qtDFQImutY/Vlvi9Wz5fsI/AAAAAAAAXWg/B3QZK2kfix0/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_33.jpg

Got moto helmets for the boys and me
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zPyVmf6lGFI/Vlvi_uOd3RI/AAAAAAAAXT0/ftgNWrLTv-o/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_41.jpg

Lesson #1: This go-kart is NOT a snowmobile :rolleyes:
It can go thru "some" snow, but not this 8" of wet snow. shovel time and it got out.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-04MR5lNP7UU/Vlvi-mn-w9I/AAAAAAAAXWU/iKf85PunXy8/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_38.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JHIdlC-Czoo/Vlvi_PZxYHI/AAAAAAAAXUw/u50d1kWkaeE/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_47_39.jpg

Lesson #2: When snow melted to 3-4" it could go thru it, and get quite messy at same time
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rqQROf01Nyo/VlvjLVinaBI/AAAAAAAAXUQ/NCsDH9LB2o4/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_48_29.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mopC42zBZYc/VlvjYBvLXiI/AAAAAAAAXUs/iffjXWbmUlA/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_49_20.jpg

mtbdudex

11-30-2015, 11:41 AM

My boy took the neighbor boy out Saturday 11/28, it was so MUDDY!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wFsF-9Gmvkc/VlvjhVGbr3I/AAAAAAAAXWw/9aNgl5DmoOo/s512-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_49_57.jpg

I had the boys "wash" the go-kart and the water puddled up in the floor pan.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ysh35OTWmrg/Vlvjj4bPejI/AAAAAAAAXXQ/43S0E2VnC1Y/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_50_07.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vLdRw2gC5aI/Vlvjk-ge-yI/AAAAAAAAXXI/Kgg8lO-aAgY/s400-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_50_11.jpg

above pict shows trying to angle the cart to get the water to drain out, it did not work so well.

Question #1:
Should the floor pan have some drain holes, or perhaps a rubber drain plug that is there when using but removable to wash/drain?
This is a upside down shot:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YbItC8rN4Vw/VlvjlwXFlBI/AAAAAAAAXXU/MfbKfTMwZzE/s512-Ic42/2015_11_30_00_50_14.jpg

Question 2:
Initially I thought it did come with the front fenders, my dealer is adament not, that Taotao stopped sending him the go karts with them as too many customer complaints. I'd still like a front fender, options??
These stock images from the Taotao website (http://taotao.us/index.cfm/news/targa150/) shows front fenders, my dealer said they were junk attach brackerts and bent/broke nearly immediately.
Only his first 5-6 go karts came with them and since then no.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-She7_vMT6PI/VlLwN5renLI/AAAAAAAAXS4/0iPd5R-9o3I/s400-Ic42/gokart%252520front%252520view2.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BtV83HOOF80/VlLwN39sAKI/AAAAAAAAXS4/Qr3OLkGSgwE/s400-Ic42/gokart%252520front%252520view.jpg

OLDKID

11-30-2015, 03:25 PM

Ain't Nothin Like That " NEW BUGGY SMELL "
Remember the engine and CVT oil will need to be changed real soon , after break-in . I haven't had your particular machine , but had many others , and I've never seen a good factory airbox or filter yet . All were useless junk . UNIFILTER or K&N is a must . You'll be re-tightening bolts for a little bit , KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR REAR HUBS!

mtbdudex

12-01-2015, 08:19 AM

Thx for feedback, the boys used it lots over Thanksgiving, hard to say drive time but went thru 2 tanks of gas.
The dealership recommended me to change oil every 10 tanks of gas. Currently it does NOT have a mileage/hours meter on it, I'd like to add one.
Any good suggestion? Below is the gages/switches it has. Gear (L-N-R), horn, turn L/R, lights, hazard.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-syhjE1G0OXo/Vl2oLXXvXbI/AAAAAAAAXYY/VJ_F5XOkl2M/s400-Ic42/2015_12_01_09_01_16.jpg

Also, like you stated I went around the buggy (we call them buggy's not go karts here?) and tightened quite a few bolts as they got a work out.

I need to look into the airbox/filter on this engine, thx for the tip.

OLDKID

12-01-2015, 03:56 PM

I'd like to here SYCARMS opinion on the break in oil change . He's a dealer . What you said seems way to long a period in my opinion . I'd say 5-10 hours for the first and only if the dealer put real quality stuff to begin with . I wouldn't want to run it at all with the stuff it was shipped with . I change all the fluids in my ATV's & Buggies after five or six rides ( average 15-20 mile rides )
That's after they're broken in .

mtbdudex

12-02-2015, 07:57 AM

The online manual agrees with you, 5 hours for initial break-in oil change, then 10 hours after that for every oil change.
https://taotao.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201453745/TAOTAO_GO_KART_MANUAL.pdf

I'm trying to estimate # tanks of gas to hours of usage, each tank is 1.6 gallons and I've filled it twice, but it was not fully empty say 3/4 empty. So the buggy has maybe 3-ish hours real drive time on it? I'll go thru 1 more tank of gas then do the 1st oil change.

I'd like to have a hour meter like my FourWinns boat has at least.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K8jIWaX8CBQ/Sk-cdXdfMbI/AAAAAAAAXZE/Tp9JSyr0zB0/s144-Ic42/IMG_2608.JPG

People here have put this onto their go-karts?
http://www.motoparthub.com/75_300_Trail_Tech_Vapor_Computer_Kit
http://www.motoparthub.com/images/thumb/68926_75_300_Trail_Tech_Vapor_Computer_Kit.jpg
Price: $101.92

wildbob

12-02-2015, 11:29 AM

Yeah, I have a trailtech and love it. I bought a blank aluminum dash console And put the trailtech on top and all the switches, etc into the dash.

wildbob

12-02-2015, 11:31 AM

I might get a bigger one at some point.

mtbdudex

12-08-2015, 04:19 AM

My boy was driving and I was passenger Saturday mid-day, make a long story short he had too much speed going into a left turn 180 degree and the go kart rolled.

Prior with his much lighter brother in passenger seat he was "drifting" that corner ....

We are all ok, 5-point harness were properly snugged and both us wearing full moto helmets. The cart rolled 270 degrees total, my direction, it stopped on his side down. I made sure he was "ok" verbally, turned off the engine, since I was hanging above him he got out first, then me second.
Checked him again, take off helmet, very relieved.

I've told everyone who rides in the go kart "always hold onto the steering wheel if driving and the passenger t-bar, if the kart rolls over KEEP your arms on them". As it rolled over, in slow motion mind you, those words were in my mind also and both of us did that, fortunately no broken bones.

I need to replace all 4 headlights, suggestions on where to buy appreciated.

side view:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-flV2-AvYM9c/VmXGINP2XTI/AAAAAAAAXaU/TrfGAaRzoFY/s640-Ic42/2015_12_07_12_47_11.jpg

view of front headlamps:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dj-ms9E1Jyc/VmXGG5G33NI/AAAAAAAAXaM/eNtUnUo4sCg/s640-Ic42/2015_12_07_12_47_06.jpg

[edit]
I've removed them so we can drive the cart again till replacements come
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZV2l37I1AE4/VmnGLOL4C3I/AAAAAAAAXdU/KPh7GC_vGrc/s640-Ic42/2015_12_10_13_36_27.jpg

mtbdudex

12-08-2015, 04:28 AM

Looking I've found these that look nearly identical:
http://www.gopowersports.com/headlight-6-000-009-hh/ (http://www.gopowersports.com/headlight-6-000-009-hh/) . http://www.gopowersports.com/head-light-with-hi-lo-6-000-104/ (http://www.gopowersports.com/head-light-with-hi-lo-6-000-104/)
Hammerhead single beam headlight, plastic grate over lens has single pigtail.$19.95
Head Light with Hi-Lo $24.95
http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-q7337/products/370/images/771/6.000.009-2__93768.1426791359.370.370.jpg?c=2 . http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-q7337/products/411/images/844/6.000.104-2__89307.1426791593.370.370.jpg?c=2

$90 for 4 new ones .... :yuck:

or I see some LED ones, like these
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SKQ69BK (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SKQ69BK)
LotFancy® 2X 27W Round Spot Beam LED Work Light Lamp Off Road High Power ATV Jeep Tractor 30 Degree Light (2X Spot Beam 27W Round)
List Price: $60.00
Price: $25.99
Sale: $19.90
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51RSxefCFhL._SS100_.jpg

mtbdudex

12-10-2015, 11:47 AM

Here's my 2.3 acre home layout and a few courses our boys run on it.
(approx 300 feet wide x 330 feet long

1) around the home itself, can hit 20mph-ish
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MibAJmCmTNw/Vmm3qoopJ3I/AAAAAAAAXc0/s89lPbguFzw/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_34.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O2JYk4plNOU/Vmm3qVgyS6I/AAAAAAAAXck/u25R5kRXuaY/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_32.jpg

2) the figure 8 on front wildflower field area, hit's 15mph there
The top/north left /west side is the 180 hairpin where the cart rolled.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gAtvyIJrX04/Vmm3p-uWTWI/AAAAAAAAXcc/HeG1WascOP4/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_30.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-58DkWIomeKM/Vmm3pW67N8I/AAAAAAAAXcU/IIYK2aCfqPg/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_28.jpg

3) down the drive way and up the road end loop and back, can reach 28mph there
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MEzhguFl_U4/Vmm3ruSJNwI/AAAAAAAAXc4/EzysHqpr0nc/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_37.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DLZYHWCvAkI/Vmm3rLK6pFI/AAAAAAAAXcw/JAsPnbgDfp0/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_12_34_35.jpg

I'm using free iPhone app called BikeBrain for this, it's GPS accuracy seems wacky as I drove same course laps...
Are you guys using any better gps accurate app to map your trails and time/speed etc??

mtbdudex

12-10-2015, 11:58 AM

I should add that the dealer told me tire pressure should be 10psi.
He delivered it and I never checked it, being just new.
I checked it just this morning and the front LH one had maybe 1psi - or less, the others 3psi, grossly under inflated.
I used a good quality dial psi gage.
As dad I take this as my responsibility for being low and truly being a causing factor for the roll-over, as making a RH turn caused the weight to shift to left and that low tire just dipped and the cart rolled.
I've since of course have them all at 10psi and will check them every 2-3 days to see if holding or not.

mtbdudex

12-10-2015, 12:40 PM

My dealer "gave" me a pair of front fenders, here they are, we need them as way too much mud/grass/crud gets in the go kart.

Before install, they go on the moving suspension so bounces and turns with the tire, front RH
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d8I3F3MoYcE/VmnGLqPHXzI/AAAAAAAAXeA/awvHUaHIUqM/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_13_36_30.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CimDiE9Ejog/VmnGMDDtN6I/AAAAAAAAXeQ/ptHdqzYle-0/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_13_36_32.jpg

I'm curious how they fail .... as he stated they did very quickly
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_yShwdQKaLQ/VmnGM1ZPlAI/AAAAAAAAXdo/NQcHuyFYzZQ/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_13_36_34.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sTDlGhftt7k/VmnGNbcqNYI/AAAAAAAAXds/u4D6D2fmEzQ/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_13_36_36.jpg

scjeep4.7HO

12-10-2015, 01:50 PM

Those fenders look allot like the ones on my Hammerhead.

mtbdudex

12-11-2015, 05:01 AM

Those fenders look allot like the ones on my Hammerhead.

How are your fenders holding up?
Are the front metal brackets ok or did they break?

Now these are my rear fenders, damage after the cart 270 degree rollover incident I mentioned earlier
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NXvwT7ACuV4/VmojEhFVD5I/AAAAAAAAXek/8BvfSPOQDqY/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_20_11_35.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tW76arE4dCE/VmojFR_Kq8I/AAAAAAAAXes/GgA166VRZws/s400-Ic42/2015_12_10_20_12_52.jpg

I will try and repair them this weekend and re-mount them.
Has anybody else repaired plastic fenders that have cracked and if so how?

scjeep4.7HO

12-11-2015, 06:31 AM

They haven't broke yet. Seem to hold up pretty good.

mtbdudex

12-11-2015, 07:33 AM

They haven't broke yet. Seem to hold up pretty good.

Good to hear that, I'm hoping mine also hold up ok.

Here's my image to fix the rear fenders:
Fixing Plastic bumpers 301:
-Bumper still needs to flex, not be ridgid
-Reinforce the crack via HVAC steel duct strap rivet to bumper
-Use "goop" then to make bumper 1-piece, contain water, yet flex still
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9FJJykQCtBc/VmrQjKVrVmI/AAAAAAAAXfA/b2XQiDNRVbQ/s640-Ic42/2015_12_10_20_11_35.jpg

OLDKID

12-11-2015, 08:55 AM

Install New Fenders , and THESE :rofl: :

mtbdudex

12-19-2015, 11:06 PM

Well I've not started on repairing the fenders yet...
My local hardware store has these in stock, but red not black
http://www.amazon.com/Danco-59849-Rubber-Packing-Sheets/dp/B000QD7LYO
https://e2x3s6i4.ssl.hwcdn.net/main/items/media/DANCO002/ProductLarge/59849.jpg

Got my brain working
I've found this supply place:
http://www.zoro.com/value-brand-14-thick-neoprene-rubber-sheets/g/00093246/
They have lots of sizes and specs., and it's black
http://d2pbmlo3fglvvr.cloudfront.net/product/full/Z_8J9zfo5oy.JPG
Besides fixing the rear fenders, I'm even going to make front fender extenders, about 3" lower so mud/crud does not fly as much at us while driving.

$22.69 /ea
Rubber, Neoprene, 1/4 In Thick, 12 x 36 In
by VALUE BRAND
Technical Specifications
Zoro #: G2947515 | Mfr #: 6060-1/4C
Finish: Smooth Item: Rubber Sheet
Material: Neoprene Rubber Thickness: 1/4"
Min. Temp. Rating (Deg. F): -20 Standards: ASTM D2000 BC
Elongation: 250% Width: 12"
Type: Commercial Grade Tensile Strength (PSI): 1000
Max. Temp. (F): 170 Length: 36"
Color: Black Backing Type: Plain
Application: General Purpose Durometer: 60A
Zoro Number: G2947515 Mfr Number: 6060-1/4C

bear

12-24-2015, 07:57 PM

mtbdudex

12-26-2015, 04:36 PM

Ok, first congrats on the buggy buy! #1. I may be crazy, but I change my oil after every big outing. It only takes a quart, and is good protection. #2. I'd look into some low profile LED lights if I where you. #3 You might want to look into some 5gl plastic buckets for some very good, durable buggy fenders that won't break the bank!

Bear;
What's a big outing?
My boys ride the go kart say 20-25 minutes, then take a break, then maybe again. Not every day.
I'm told change oil every 10 hours, gotta get one of those gages to keep track of runtime.

I've got the lights replaced from the roll-over, well the top ones the front ones later.
Made thread in the elect sub-forum for that, http://www.buggymasters.com/forum/showthread.php?p=48629#post48629 (http://www.buggymasters.com/forum/showthread.php?p=48629#post48629)
What low profile LED lights are you using?
If my DIY fixing the fenders goes bust I like your idea of Home Depot 5 gallon buckets cut up....but black/grey not orange.

bear

12-26-2015, 08:30 PM

mtbdudex

12-28-2015, 09:01 PM

On the rear fenders, I ended up fixing them.

Here is result; I cut the HVAC strap and used the rivets as discussed.
Put them on dry. This should ensure the don't flop around and the crack does not propagate further.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tWcv4aO4V0g/VoHKAdAdyFI/AAAAAAAAXt8/y4eP6gk3Ldg/s400-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_11.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ElAFPJHVMhw/VoHKA2ac7_I/AAAAAAAAXuE/MnFX6zbNmQE/s400-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_15.jpg

I then applied the goop to the inside, prior cleaned with rubbing alcohol.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0viDnjLtnGs/VoHKBVp9_8I/AAAAAAAAXuI/EE9R4O3T9Cg/s288-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_17.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Bs2Hh2U5HZU/VoHKCPS8aYI/AAAAAAAAXuU/XsuNvZCVuP4/s288-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_18.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tgsQRKctk98/VoHKCuAjcrI/AAAAAAAAXuY/mvNVPmDyPJ4/s288-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_21.jpg

It dries very quickly, but has some flexibility like the label said.
The goop costed $5 at home depot, I was not sure if it was going to work, I feel it will enhance this fix.

As a back-up I got 1 quart of truck bed coating, seriously I was going to coat the inside and outside, letting it dry, but now i feel no need,
That stuff is $20/quart, I'll be returning it tomorrow.
Will let them fully cure for 48 hours before putting back on.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GX5hS9HYpB0/VoHKDOuuVXI/AAAAAAAAXug/wwMKnRsd73Q/s400-Ic42/2015_12_28_18_47_23.jpg

mtbdudex

12-28-2015, 09:15 PM

Sidebar - or when checking the buggy I found a rattling drivers seat, and took it apart...well enough so I could take the seat attach bolts off and see whats up with them. The passenger seat was still rock solid.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-09fYzu2nxRM/Vn79fHxx1KI/AAAAAAAAXqs/cFZAGNmlhx4/s800-Ic42/2015_12_26_15_50_03.jpg

The fastener on the rear inside part track was loose, how'd that happen?
Not correct tighten to torque specs by the mechanic who assembled my go kart?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gT6sVzsPccM/Vn79fmUcX7I/AAAAAAAAXq0/h0yS0g0witE/s512-Ic42/2015_12_26_15_50_05.jpg

I cleaned everything off, applied blue loctite, and re-assembled back torquing correctly.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4vX7R1Mkb0A/Vn79f4BPmXI/AAAAAAAAXq8/fNS9dSK1-q4/s512-Ic42/2015_12_26_15_50_07.jpg .

Now everything works better, slides back/forth good, and no rattles.

mtbdudex

12-30-2015, 03:00 PM

Fenders all repaired and installed this morning, they flex like I had hoped, so I expect them to last a while.

I used a black marker to color the aluminum rivet heads black
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SNXmuUL5waY/VoQ5tSD_ksI/AAAAAAAAXu4/z85X2gJGxxg/s400-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_13.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l6VDpx15wVA/VoQ5uaVngGI/AAAAAAAAXvE/3Cz2cBWAdTk/s400-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_23.jpg

up close view
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XxtnZODyOxA/VoQ5v2UKNwI/AAAAAAAAXvc/wWp6bhOsi-c/s512-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_30.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zgQ0WYw7Jiw/VoQ5vRcMa9I/AAAAAAAAXvU/W9UQk71i2BU/s512-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_28.jpg

wider rear view
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jT2GqYABsXI/VoQ5wfs2duI/AAAAAAAAXvk/pk8LHzrX4Lw/s800-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_32.jpg

side view
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gs8jAyYKf0E/VoQ5wjB1gUI/AAAAAAAAXvs/fc9WL_aS30s/s800-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_34.jpg

mtbdudex

12-30-2015, 03:07 PM

Mike, I consider anything over a 5 hour day of aggressive driving i.e. lots of mud, snow, water, etc. a big outing! When I talk about "low profile" LED's, I mean your basic 1"x 7" generic light bar, so they don't stick out like a big set of eyeballs! You can pick them up just about anywhere that sells automotive type lighting i.e. AutoZone, Orielly, etc. As for the buckets, make sure you use the ribbed area towards the top of the bucket, it's a stiffer support area! I hope you have years of enjoying this sport!!!

Got it, oil changes are easy insurance for these 150cc motors.

Also gave a oil change thismorning, pretty basic, I had my 9 year old help me do it.
He loosened the oil bolt, I removed it explaining to him making sure you don't lose the washer when removing it nor dropping it into the oil milk jug .
(my lessons learned from the old days)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eMbTZdKF4Ak/VoQ5yh33y2I/AAAAAAAAXwM/YdxHS7WTGbg/s400-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_42.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oFGF6GB4iCI/VoQ5zLXEltI/AAAAAAAAXwY/DbWiq15ayqQ/s400-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_44.jpg

Approx 1 qt gave this, he helped fill it.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CxFsUrGCF-Y/VoQ5zqVBBjI/AAAAAAAAXwU/58mcfb-FkEo/s400-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_45.jpg

These are all simple teaching moments for me with him.

mtbdudex

12-30-2015, 03:12 PM

Question:
Shock adjustments, how should I set them?

The place I bought them they had them at this setting front and rear.
Which appears the stiffest setting, that should be set based on expected weight of riders and their aggressiveness??

Is there some table of settings to use based on that?

Front:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QiKfGTiOPEA/VoQ5xSjP-BI/AAAAAAAAXv0/tD3EXJndbOc/s512-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_36.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p-PhWG683Hs/VoQ5xw_CCbI/AAAAAAAAXv4/_TUg0UK1E9o/s512-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_38.jpg

rear:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3QvwmfTSBg8/VoQ5yd9ycTI/AAAAAAAAXwE/aNpcOGOqcs8/s512-Ic42/2015_12_30_15_08_40.jpg

mtbdudex

12-30-2015, 03:21 PM

I'd like to have a hour meter like my FourWinns boat has at least.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K8jIWaX8CBQ/Sk-cdXdfMbI/AAAAAAAAXZE/Tp9JSyr0zB0/s144-Ic42/IMG_2608.JPG

People here have put this onto their go-karts?
http://www.motoparthub.com/75_300_Trail_Tech_Vapor_Computer_Kit
http://www.motoparthub.com/images/thumb/68926_75_300_Trail_Tech_Vapor_Computer_Kit.jpg

Yeah, I have a trailtech and love it. I bought a blank aluminum dash console And put the trailtech on top and all the switches, etc into the dash.

Alright, now I'm getting serious on the trailtech and need to research mounting methods, also I see it has a black option, I like that better as my dash is black already
http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/vapor
http://www.trailtech.net/media/content/vapor-header/vapor.png

x-bird

12-30-2015, 07:25 PM

mtbdudex

12-31-2015, 08:34 AM

In your close up of the shock, that's the "softest" spring setting. as you rotate the ring, the taller the step your on, the stiffer the spring will get. As far as it goes with a shock like that, set it so that you use up about 1/4 of your travel when your sitting in it. (preload setting).

One of the best improvements you can make is to step up to a better set of shocks. finding the right length usually isn't that hard, but finding the correct spring rate can be a pain. It varies for everyone based on weight, riding style, power output and terrain.

I run a TT Vapor. buried in my thread somewhere are pics of the mount setup i made.
Thx for feedback. Yes, you are right I read that backwards.
For now this is a "fun" go kart for my boys mainly, ages 9 and 11.
They each weigh 75-ish pounds, I weigh 200 lbs.
I don't have info on how much shock travel these factory ones have.
To adjust the settings, how do I do it?
I'm guessing need to take the load off the shock by floor jack/safety jack, then easy to adjust?
Therefore, since they are so light I'll leave it on the lightest setting, knowing that it needs to be adjusted progressively heavier as they grow.
Ideally there would be a table of settings for expected rider weights for these shocks in "normal" ride usage..
From my seller website page info:
TAOTAO Targa 150 (http://www.wmsbrighton.com/product_p/tttarga150.htm)
G.W.(lbs): 638 LBS (290 Kgs)
N.W.(lbs): 528 LBS (240 Kgs)
Max Loading: <=320 LBS (160 Kgs)

bear

12-31-2015, 02:33 PM

Good job on the fenders! I spend a lot of time riding in some pretty rough terrain, with a lot of creek beds thrown in the mix, that's why I'm pretty regular with my oil changes! One other area I have to pay attention to is my gear oil, as it will get "milky" pretty quick in all that water!

mtbdudex

01-12-2016, 10:36 AM

Chain 101:
1) I see my chain has gotten slack as it gets used, how much "play" should I dial in via the adjustment bolt in the back?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Enm88Dx4qbY/VpT5KDfz3II/AAAAAAAAYG4/Lwevp3WOcHQ/s400-Ic42/2016_01_12_08_01_26.jpg . https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ak-XW91dJjU/VpT5Ku5sGEI/AAAAAAAAYHA/Alt9r648TT8/s400-Ic42/2016_01_12_08_01_30.jpg

2) lube, I use white lightning on my mountain bike chains, its nice and does not attract dirt/sand like others, what do you guys use?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MyikUB15Qpk/VpT5LZEBrqI/AAAAAAAAYHE/vSMSoeNwfhQ/s400-Ic42/2016_01_12_08_01_32.jpg

ckau

01-12-2016, 05:10 PM

ChainWax... holds up well won't sling off. nothing seems to stick to it so dirt and grit won't cling to the chain. Spray it on to coat the chain, let it dry for a few minutes.

x-bird

01-13-2016, 08:03 AM

about 1/2 to 3/4 inch up down travel in the center of the run.

mtbdudex

01-13-2016, 11:48 AM

ChainWax... holds up well won't sling off. nothing seems to stick to it so dirt and grit won't cling to the chain. Spray it on to coat the chain, let it dry for a few minutes.
Perfect, I added to my Amazon cart

about 1/2 to 3/4 inch up down travel in the center of the run.
Thx, yesterday I adjusted it to about 1/4" up down travel, so tonight I'll tweak that to 1/2".
It was at 1", I never adjusted it since delivery 2 months back, and with my daughter and her friend in the cart on torque uphill I thought I heard it jump.

mtbdudex

01-20-2016, 11:39 AM

Winter planning for spring time;

Ok - it's winter now and my boys will be driving the go kart here and there when not too cold/too much snow, but come spring I can really see them using it.

What should I plan for with more usage?
I'm ok with some $ if it will make the go kart more durable, etc.
Don't really see the need for absolute speed increase, for now it's fast enough.

I'll change oil every 10 hours/monthly, that's easy
CVT maintenance?
Other?

mtbdudex

02-05-2016, 04:34 AM

The bolt broke that holds the chain adj mechanism in place.
Prior bolt
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ak-XW91dJjU/VpT5Ku5sGEI/AAAAAAAAYHA/Alt9r648TT8/s512-Ic42/2016_01_12_08_01_30.jpg

I went to a hardware store that has lot's of bolts, they did not have a flange head 8mm 1.25 thd long enough, but found a just long suitable bolt.
It was 110mm, just long enough for the nylock nut to grip, ideally I'd like 115mm long to include washers also.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0zZmf17-_lU/VrPwHj2OCoI/AAAAAAAAYPI/qkxqhmhUXKU/s512-Ic42/2016_02_04_19_43_09.jpg

Replacement bolt installed
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1DrF9snKfYY/VrPwJD6if1I/AAAAAAAAYPI/zA4tKYYyYV4/s512-Ic42/2016_02_04_19_43_15.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FAxw_oeC4GA/VrPwIfCYbSI/AAAAAAAAYPI/RJ_ApfnoRfI/s512-Ic42/2016_02_04_19_43_13.jpg

OLDKID

02-05-2016, 07:30 AM

I'd spend the big bucks ($2-3 ) and go GRADE 8 SAE 3/8 , 7/16 , 1/2 What ever you can jamb in there , long enough for a lock washer and your Nylock . The tensioner themselves on the older Yerf's were prone to break which can cause a world of ugliness . GRADE 8 has 6 lines on head .

mtbdudex

02-05-2016, 10:53 AM

Thx for feedback, before I bought what I did I (and store clerk) looked all over that store and did not see any high strength bolts in what I needed.
There's a steel collar the bolt goes thru, and then 2 rubber bushings to isolate vibrations, so need to fit inside that collar.
8mm = 0.31496" , while 5/16 = 0.3125" , so 5/16 is largest I can go.

I'll see if McMasters has the correct hi strength flange bolt online I can get.
http://www.mcmaster.com/ (http://www.mcmaster.com/)

striking out, nothing 120mm long flange bolt :(
Strike 1
http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-flange-screws/=10zsszt

Strike 2
http://www.mcmaster.com/#12-point-flange-head-screws/=10zsud6

Strike 3, these are almost there, 5/16 x 4" = 100mm, I need 4 1/4 "
http://www.mcmaster.com/#flange-head-screws/=10zsvbq

second inning, normal cap screw;
1st base
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-cap-screws/=10zsx2k
These seem exactly what I need: $8.48 for a pkg of 5, 4 1/4"
4 1/4" 7/8" to 1 3/16" 5 91257A607 8.48
http://images2.mcmaster.com/mvA/contents/gfx/large/92620ap1-b01l.png?ver=1383122389
The standard for high-strength cap screws, these are made from alloy steel and have a minimum tensile strength of 150,000 psi. Length is measured from under the head.

Inch screws are marked on the head with six radial lines to indicate Grade 8. Screws have a minimum Rockwell hardness of C33 and a Class 2A thread fit. They also meet ASME B18.2.1 and SAE J429, unless noted. Screws with material certification come with a traceable lot number and a physical and chemical report.

Before I went to the hardware store, I called my local dealer seeing if he had these in stock, he told me to try a local hardware store ...

Based upon my few dealings with him, I've relegated him to a dealer only, not a service provider of parts. I now know my dealer is really more of an assembler.

mtbdudex

02-05-2016, 11:27 AM

Order placed!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-66dGIoxDj1Y/VrTbOH0utmI/AAAAAAAAYPY/MyaH_XC5Vss/s699-Ic42/GoKartMcMasters%252520order.jpg

SYCARMS

02-05-2016, 11:39 AM

Your original bolt was metric and marked 5. The 5 is equivalent to a sae grade 3, so you will be OK with the grade 5 bolt.

OLDKID

02-05-2016, 12:05 PM

Yea but it broke .

SYCARMS

02-05-2016, 01:21 PM

mtbdudex

02-05-2016, 02:04 PM

It could have been weak from the factory or over tightened or the chain could have been too tight. All these buggies have the equivalent of SAE grade 3 from the factory. Better the bolt break than a frame or casing.

Good points - sorta like a design to failure point to keep more expensive item from breaking.

In this case I got this November-2015, I checked the bolt for snugness and it was "good", I never added more torque to it.

The chain had some "extra" slack in it a few weeks back, I adjusted that to have 1/2" slack.

Since my order is in, should I change the bolt grade to a SAE 3 instead?

I'm not sure how much true engineering was done to this design, vs copy another and use best practices.

[edit] too late, the order was just shipped - they are too fast!
Shipped 1 hour ago, UPS Ground 1Z1800200xxxxxxxxx February 5

OLDKID

02-05-2016, 03:45 PM

It could have been weak from the factory or over tightened or the chain could have been too tight. All these buggies have the equivalent of SAE grade 3 from the factory. Better the bolt break than a frame or casing.

10/4 ,Roger . My Yerf still has the first Gen. flimsy adjuster on it . I run a loop of cable & clamps around it to act as a limiter strap in case it fails . I've heard of all kinds of damage when they drop .

SYCARMS

02-07-2016, 03:22 PM

As I said these buggies of this design all use a grade 3 bolt and is why I said it could have been defective. The only other thing I would check is that the front mount of the engine is tight and the rubber in the bushings pressed into the case look good. The only thing I can see to shear the bolt is if the engine twists under load. You should see no movement in the engine under acceleration.

mtbdudex

03-09-2016, 05:30 PM

Alright, my front disc brakes work but the rear is not working at all.
Not even the parking brake, which when manually pulled the cable does pull but not grab.

Is there a link to brake service manual somewhere?
I can read, look at exploded diagram, but need to know where to look.

Some simple things I should check??

Fluid still in plastic holding reserve all the way.

I've told my boys no riding till dad fixes this......

Brake pedal
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dN6ucTk3rs0/VuCvnZBK0dI/AAAAAAAAYsg/12JFbBgP6Gk/s640-Ic42/2016_03_09_18_19_57.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KmdPTLsWXBg/VuCvm4V09TI/AAAAAAAAYsc/eaqEBp7SoCg/s640-Ic42/2016_03_09_18_19_55.jpg

rear
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-44BuO9sy1W8/VuCvmk4URII/AAAAAAAAYsY/13_SN9KAiM4/s640-Ic42/2016_03_09_18_19_53.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T0zkYpGZg1Q/VuCvmOjyrtI/AAAAAAAAYsw/fRaC4vCoARY/s640-Ic42/2016_03_09_18_19_51.jpg

SYCARMS

03-10-2016, 10:43 PM

Are the rear pads good?

mtbdudex

04-01-2016, 09:12 PM

Are the rear pads good?

Finally took the rear pads and caliper off.
The pads are worn very irregularly, IMO the bracket that holds the caliper is NOT 90 degrees to the brake rotor.
Crappy Chinese quality control!!

Pads
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qsg_HLug7Wc/Vv7gOa2alzI/AAAAAAAAYxU/-4bXnd6pmOAJBJV0ORWI9TTC21sQ0DiLQCCo/s512-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_19.jpg

Look at the off angle of wear, the right one is the outer one
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CTQMYPD4zSg/Vv7gPQGfjFI/AAAAAAAAYxU/K4B4az9aB9wburGEbLNMJL6jKdXwTiI8wCCo/s400-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_22.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1HXH7utVS00/Vv7gPzIMjlI/AAAAAAAAYxU/sSoJZH5L-gAHLEA12hvbtApIkJPPaAUdQCCo/s400-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_26.jpg

Here you can see the bracket that the caliper is attached to definitely is not 90 degrees to the brake rotor
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IjzBrfupzWk/Vv7gQmiWJfI/AAAAAAAAYxU/XDt1afcB-nE9s5cyxWoNxvwqD-lqZmZWgCCo/s800-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_30.jpg

I'm thinking to bend it down slightly to more true it up to 90 degrees, but what I need to know is the critical dimension edge of rotor to edge of caliper mounting, how many mm should that be?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eCpdw88MLmM/Vv7gRamWqcI/AAAAAAAAYxU/sA0ejMhHzm8ShZ7nbdTUIhcvaerEoArZACCo/s800-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_32.jpg

SYCARMS

04-02-2016, 10:20 AM

Usually when I see pads worn like that it indicates the caliper is not sliding freely on the locating pins. Corrosion/dirt forms on the pins and caliper binds on one end.

mtbdudex

04-03-2016, 09:11 AM

Usually when I see pads worn like that it indicates the caliper is not sliding freely on the locating pins. Corrosion/dirt forms on the pins and caliper binds on one end.

Well you've seen I'm sure 100's of these, and this is my only one, thx for feedback.

I got new pads, place who sold me the gokart has them for $10/pair.
I can put them on, taking note of making sure the caliper slides freely, is that a usual maintenance thing to check for monthly?

Still, I can't help but wonder why my bracket is not 90 degrees to the axle.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DbaQUadC5Hs/VwEjjra9L9I/AAAAAAAAYyc/-oyDvn-mLeMcBWwidVdYsCiwlfVUVmW8wCCo/s800-Ic42/2016_04_01_16_55_30.jpg

SYCARMS

04-03-2016, 04:03 PM

Yes, I agree it should be square. Either the frame took a hell of a wack or the top bushing the long bolt that secures caliper goes through was not squared when welded. You will just have to take it all apart and inspect each piece to fond what is out of wack.

mtbdudex

04-06-2016, 12:48 PM

Well put the go kart up and the axle/etc is true/square, the bracket was poorly welded.

So, I did what any dad would do, took a 2 x 4 and pounded the bracket down.
It got slightly more true to the rotor, but I could not move it any more or the caliper when mounted would touch the bottom of the rotor, now there's minimum static clearance.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-fHctm_V_KIo/VwVK7QSSaeI/AAAAAAAAYzM/4QTJBqdHj8ATBDUORUIkWwKzzjqd7u70gCCo/s512-Ic42/2016_04_06_13_44_04.jpg

to do it right I'll need to bend it more, then grind away some of the mounting area, just maybe 1.5mm, keeping it square and what not.

For now, the parking brake and foot brake all work again, so my boy is back in business.

OLDKID

04-06-2016, 01:09 PM

No riding the BRAKE ! No matter how many times I've told Self , Wife , Kids , Grandkids keep foot off break pedal / NO RESTING FOOT ON THE BREAK PEDAL !!! I still catch myself time to time ... :banghead: :banghead: :fart:

mtbdudex

04-20-2016, 11:49 AM

I was inspecting the rear of the go kart this weekend and noticed a grove in the brake rotor, strange.

Upon further looking it was caused by the bolts being too long, rubbing against it.

Rear brake caliper bolt was too long, 2 washers were there but some rotor damage done
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c5_xYgTntps/Vxaocq907PI/AAAAAAAAY18/uO7FMYfE10ELjzzeWsKW-Mfnyg-apXM3QCCo/s640-Ic42/2016_04_19_17_51_46.jpg

Here you can see the 2 washers that were put there to make the end of the bolt prutude less, but this was obviously after damage was done.
>>It came from the dealer this way, I never touched the rear calipers prior to earlier fixing the brake pad thing.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Or-Cf3Ydhj8/VxaodEn4oKI/AAAAAAAAY18/4fJhyuFCuzgOfrD6lF2b591KM-geEX4JwCCo/s640-Ic42/2016_04_19_17_51_47.jpg

This has caused me to lose faith in my dealership for setting up the go kart this way, I'm not sure though if he did this or it was done in the Tao Tao Chinese factory and they setup and shipped it to USA....
:cussing:

The rear brakes work and seem not to be affected by this, in short term at least.

SYCARMS

04-20-2016, 02:34 PM

The only thing assembled by the Dealer is the seats,belts,fuel tank,connect lower ball joints,connect rear shocks and put the wheels on. The rest was done at the factory. The dealer should have test drove the buggy and heard the scraping. That groove hurts nothing, you corrected the problem.

mtbdudex

04-21-2016, 03:49 PM

Just to clarify:
I did not add any washers to the brake caliper bolts, that's how I go kart from the dealer, so either he noticed it and fixed it on his lot, as I bought it assembled from his lot, or the Chinese OE did that prior to shipment to USA.

mtbdudex

04-21-2016, 03:52 PM

Next item, air cleaner 501:
I got the go kart with it's stock OE air cleaner.
I took off the plastic cover first time this past weekend:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ivL59fEmNuM/VxaoBQvCQqI/AAAAAAAAY10/LWfDq5cDBmQH19zN6Jvv9ppgj7F11Ms5wCCo/s640-Ic42/2016_04_19_17_49_55.jpg

Pretty basic, I cleaned the sponge, put it back in.
Below is prior to cleaning:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-49N8bPM1YTw/VxaoAfEeXsI/AAAAAAAAY10/8GdqPoXoQrgUjgJ8sSjB1GC2kpfekp4vwCCo/s640-Ic42/2016_04_19_17_49_51.jpg

I've seen those aftermarket air cleaners, I can't imagine how they add anything to the performance of the engine, do they?
If so, how?

SYCARMS

04-21-2016, 04:52 PM

Yes they do. The airbox is a restriction. Installing the UNI or K&N will allow more air which is why you have to rejet. More air + more fuel = more power.

OLDKID

04-21-2016, 05:34 PM

From a performance standpoint , YES LIKE SYCARMS SAID . But like I always say " most factory boxes, and filters SUCK ! " AS Evidenced by your picture , Is it me or can't you see all the crud that made it thru to the clean side of the box ? If the filter and box were doing their job the pre filter side of the box , and the filter would be filthy while the carb. side of the box would be SPOTLESS . You've been sucking DIRT . Unless you like premature engine wear and failure do yourself a huge favor and put a REAL air filter on it . :cussing::banghead:

mtbdudex

04-22-2016, 10:27 AM

Yes I saw that dirt in the "clean side" of the air cleaner, indictiave the sponge did not have a good seal 360 degrees OR the plastic cover , which does not have a gasket, allowed some dirt to get inside it on the "clean side".

My short term countermeasure is ensure sealing on the plastic cover & Sponge, I can DIY a thin gasket from Home Depot stuff.

Alright, I'm drinking some kool-aid here and willing to allocate $50-ish for intake enhancements.
http://gokartsusa.com/GY6-150-Engine-Air-Filters.aspx

How to spend it?

OLDKID

04-22-2016, 12:01 PM

A UNI filter for sure , usually in conjunction with a 6" plenum ( intake ) I'm sure SYCARMS could provide or direct you . Sometimes available as a complete kit form for certain applications . I'd try SYC POWER SPORTS first , than Buggy Depot .

mtbdudex

04-22-2016, 02:46 PM

Thx for suggestions.

Also the cheap A$$ chinese clamp was broken on the carb to engine side, so the A/F mixture was too lean, my boy complained 2-3 weeks back about lack of power.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xjNhheRkHSQ/VxaoDEpOD1I/AAAAAAAAY10/-sJcj9aAjIEYkrTzVDZSjj2nNVluWx4pgCCo/s640/2016_04_19_17_50_02.jpg

I had a hose clamp lying around and put it on, heck he notice instant zip in acceleration again, :biggrin:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0TTVprZoIBU/VxaoDjtsTeI/AAAAAAAAY10/NHhkL-fGviITYSEwEBZgMUHda71YjLyOACCo/s640/2016_04_19_17_50_05.jpg

POS chinese junk, I never touched this, it musta broke thru that over time via being overtourqued at their factory???
In USA factory workers have torque limiters ......
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pu5fX6QzV6Y/VxaoEiQSk7I/AAAAAAAAY10/br1vVzQ6FBkE4D5XP-yBIv8TK4bTJjPHgCCo/s640/2016_04_19_17_50_07.jpg

mtbdudex

04-23-2016, 02:25 PM

DIY gasket applied to the air cleaner plastic lid.
Cleaned the lid with paint thinner, dried, cut the gasket in half to fit nicely, and it now has a good all around perimeter seal.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EagOVsWkOso/VxvLWdmtPtI/AAAAAAAAY2Q/NdMADwT3sMk1bhoqblQ-xzzdPw-iYx8wwCCo/s640/2016_04_23_15_22_00.jpg

mtbdudex

04-23-2016, 03:28 PM

Grease/zerk fittings, I'm looking for some as it's spring time maintenance to greasing the bearings, I can't find any.

How do you guys grease all your suspension joints??
Or, are they sealed and no need?

SYCARMS

04-23-2016, 03:41 PM

Control arms will have 2 each and dog bone links in back 2 each. Wheel bearings are sealed.

mtbdudex

04-27-2016, 11:53 AM

Ok, my 26hp garden tractor has these zerk fittings easily seen and I shoot grease into them yearly
Front spindle:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FCVGS7-39UA/VyDbqxX666I/AAAAAAAAY3s/8Qvi7uM-kj8DjzTetKAKiJlKnVcWVK64ACCo/s512/2016_04_27_11_32_59.jpg

Blade bearings:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e-cCX106f18/VyDbqfK0jqI/AAAAAAAAY3s/3EejC2QXdAsqGJnKY4GYZBdTSEKXMGfUACCo/s400/2016_04_27_11_32_56.jpg

There's zero - nada - none on my 150cc Tao Tao go kart:
Front spindle none:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Xeo5730zKOo/VyDXZ24vJQI/AAAAAAAAY3Y/WCRKWWg07yEs8O3hbbqgU9aroY-DZBywQCCo/s512/2016_04_27_11_14_46.jpg

Steering control arms
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EtWNvWBw4-A/VyDXZYmkn1I/AAAAAAAAY3Y/LgqRbZ4qSwI9XGIMZEsyCWBv7eE5SyF8ACCo/s512/2016_04_27_11_14_44.jpg

Wheel bearings sealed
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cNmhBqHtbOo/VyDXY6G3e8I/AAAAAAAAY3Y/IFtWwKeAm38eB_q5xsKou_CjBzboS2bGQCCo/s512/2016_04_27_11_14_41.jpg

Upper and lower suspensipon arms just bushings to frame, so nothing to lubricate there
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UAoVaPgbwB8/VyDXbSt7i3I/AAAAAAAAY3Y/ko7STD8DOlYfBtUBihRdBufMurZgOLCoQCCo/s640/2016_04_27_11_14_51.jpg

Rear axle no zerk fitting anywhere
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mq1jHH4Gay8/VyDXX5ZuqcI/AAAAAAAAY3Y/Ye0lvJBxrSMTJiyMOo8musufvZcba9DZgCCo/s640/2016_04_27_11_14_37.jpg

Again, There's zero - nada - no zerk fittings on my 150cc Tao Tao go kart, so this is normal for chinese go karts? Or not needed in this class of vehicle usage? ie, not expected to get sunk under water, etc.

SYCARMS

04-27-2016, 12:41 PM

They use sealed bearings, so there is nothing to grease just as on 99%of new cars.

OLDKID

04-27-2016, 02:01 PM

On balljoints , tierod ends , etc. I drill a1/32 hole in center and grease with a pencil point adapter . You then have to grease regularly because the hole also lets grease out , but so does sloppy boots . On sealed bearings and other applications I've delicately lifted seals and greased . In some instances I use the hypodermic needle adapters to gain access . I'm a lubrication Nut .:laugh2:

OLDKID

04-27-2016, 02:16 PM

You can also drill and add grease zerks where applicable . Example : The front control arms on my Yerf Dog Spiderbox's I disassemble, , drill numerous holes in the spacer tube ( so the grease can reach the inner diameter ) drill and install a self tapping zerk on center of each arm and BAM! THEY'RE GREASABLE .:banana:

mtbdudex

04-29-2016, 02:53 PM

Ok, full disclosure I work for a major auto OE, I'm Manager of Test dept. , 30+ years in the business, 25+ at OE and 5 at supplier level.

Guess there is NO R&D testing done on these Chinese knock-offs, they just copy/paste other designs and sell them?

Not having any service manual available should have been a red flag, hard to make one if you don't own the IP for what you are selling.

For these "missing" ahem - lack of need for zerk fittings, I have to hope they are truly sealed design (wheels), the boots on the suspension being tightly sealed don't let grease out nor moisture in, etc. ie, no service is needed.......

I respect what you did OLDKID, but I'll roll the dice here.
Maybe yearly I should dis-assemble the front wheels, ie take off the cotter pin and see the grease situation, and if needed try and re-pack them?

SYCARMS

04-29-2016, 03:39 PM

I have a 2004 Blade 150 single seat buggy and except for the engine being built to the hilt and shocks, all bearings, struts and bushings are still A-OK. The strut , that which the ball joints are welded to only lasted this long because of the works shocks I have on the buggy. I do have grease fittings on my control arms but only cause they used metal bushings. All the new buggies use the nylon bushing impregnated with lube so there is no need to grease. My bearings are all sealed and have yet to have any problems. In fact today many of the cars have sealed bearings and have no issues until around 100,000 miles. Never have I dealt with the TaoTao so I can't rate its quality but the better buggies like Blade Hammerhead, Joyner and ASW have no issues at all.

i have a 2004 Blade 150

mtbdudex

05-02-2016, 07:30 AM

Nice to hear, what that means for us end users is less work/maint, more play and enjoyment with our kids - and us!

wolfsbeign

07-02-2016, 10:37 AM

Hello everyone this is my first post. I'm diving head first into karting with zero experience (after pressure from my in-laws to buy my 9 and 7 yr old boys an ATV, I chose the buggy route instead for safety concerns). Just received my 2015 150cc TaoTao Targa 150 in factory packaging and embarking upon assembly today. Luckily the retailer I bought from has pretty thorough assembly instructions on YouTube. I'm not a mechanic by any means but handy enough (with lots of help from YouTube) to do this right and introduce myself and my boys to maintaining a vehicle like this.

OP thank you for starting this thread! There seems to be very little on the web / YouTube about this particular buggy (probably because its a new model). Your documenting your experiences will be hugely helpful to me and others I'm sure.

Alright, I'm drinking some kool-aid here and willing to allocate $50-ish for intake enhancements.
http://gokartsusa.com/GY6-150-Engine-Air-Filters.aspx

How to spend it?
OP, have you upgraded your air intake yet? If so would you be willing to share details on components?

I'm also planning to install a clear fuel filter. Other than that, with proper break-in and oil changing, eventually a new battery and air intake, can anyone give a total buggy noob like me any other recommendations for basic / cheap / up-front upgrades?

Thanks!
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2015 150cc TAOTAO Targa 150

cfd3lsd

01-08-2017, 06:00 PM

Hi All,
We got out Targa 150cc last month. Unfortunately, my niece rolled it only after 5 days. My two boys barely had used it. So far, I can only find 1 broken light and a bent rear, right wheel. I've had it looked at by two different folks (the dealer and tire guy). Both have said it is fine to use and that the only issue will be additional wear on the tire. The axle appears fine. I was hoping someone could link a wheel replacement. Also, I may opt for a KN air filter or Uni as suggested earlier in the thread. Please let me know if anyone has a link for sure replacement. Thanks All,
Charles

cfd3lsd

01-08-2017, 06:01 PM

btw, all this pics on this thread have been a ton of help. I've use this thread to realize I was missing bolts and where I need to look for tightening. The dealer has been little help and he didn't have a manual or link.

wolfsbeign

01-08-2017, 07:16 PM

I bent my front passenger side wheel on a tree stump and familygokarts (http://www.familygokarts.com/shop/gokarts-off-road-buggies-46?gclid=CIrL_6fxs9ECFZy1wAodxLQKTw) (dealeri bought the Targa 150 from) shipped me a replacement no problem. I think it was $35 plus shipping (wheel only)

SYCARMS

01-09-2017, 10:39 AM

I stock the Uni, K&N as wellas the R2C filters. Call me for pricing or any other questions.662-301-1563

cfd3lsd

01-12-2017, 06:45 PM

Thanks for the response, very helpful.

cfd3lsd

01-12-2017, 07:07 PM

Sorry for the noob question. While I've change the oil on this machine (TAO TARGA 150cc) twice since Christmas, I've not seen where or how to change the CVT oil. The manual makes no reference. It is an automatic. Any suggestions?

Also, when I got it from the dealer (1-month service) the oil was all the way up to the thread on the screw cap...a good 1.5'' above has marks this was with a hot engine. I drained it the hash marks and I plan to check it again cold. Unfortunately, we ran it a couple of times before realizing this. Not sure if anything was adversely effected.

Ain't Nothin Like That " NEW BUGGY SMELL "
Remember the engine and CVT oil will need to be changed real soon , after break-in . I haven't had your particular machine , but had many others , and I've never seen a good factory airbox or filter yet . All were useless junk . UNIFILTER or K&N is a must . You'll be re-tightening bolts for a little bit , KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR REAR HUBS!

SYCARMS

01-14-2017, 03:39 PM

There is no oil in the cvt. The older buggies with external reverse had a final drive oil. The newer internal reverse engines have a transmission oil.Post some pics of rear of engine ,right side.

cfd3lsd

02-03-2017, 10:35 AM

Sorry for the slow response: http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p646/Charles_Dennison/20170125_231242752_iOS_zpsw4wff43x.jpg (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/Charles_Dennison/media/20170125_231242752_iOS_zpsw4wff43x.jpg.html)

cfd3lsd

02-03-2017, 10:36 AM

http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p646/Charles_Dennison/20170125_231242752_iOS_zpsw4wff43x.jpg (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/Charles_Dennison/media/20170125_231242752_iOS_zpsw4wff43x.jpg.html)

cfd3lsd

02-03-2017, 10:37 AM

http://i1344.photobucket.com/albums/p646/Charles_Dennison/20170125_231227003_iOS_zps8whuxmkw.jpg (http://s1344.photobucket.com/user/Charles_Dennison/media/20170125_231227003_iOS_zps8whuxmkw.jpg.html)

SYCARMS

02-03-2017, 12:30 PM

Cannot tell for sure from your pictures what setup you have as far as transmission, maybe try some pics from the back end showing the chain drive as well as the entire buggy from front view. My guess being a 2012 model it will be internal reverse but there were a couple different versions of it. Some good clear pictures not too close up and good lighting will help in determining just what you have.

mtbdudex

06-12-2017, 07:15 PM

Hi guys, it's been a while.
We've been enjoying our buggy, doing the needed oil changes, etc.

Heck - when I have a stressful day nothing like me taking it out for 10 minutes or so just to have fun, be a kid, do some drifting, etc,

Now, seems I need to replace the muffler, it's already rusting at the front portion as seen here:
It's getting louder at the leak.
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Two choices:
1) go stock
2) some "upgrade"

I'm open to a more robust muffler, with some slight performance benefit also

Suggestions and links where to look appreciated in advance.

Bruihn

10-25-2017, 03:19 AM

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That's awesome. I dreamed of having something like this as a kid!

mtbdudex

04-01-2019, 01:57 PM

SYCARMS

04-03-2019, 12:28 PM

I did not see any rust holes in picture. Are you sure it is not leaking at exhaust gasket ring?

mtbdudex

04-06-2019, 07:14 AM

I did not see any rust holes in picture. Are you sure it is not leaking at exhaust gasket ring?

Yea - that's a 2017 picture ...
Here's the 2019 pictures, it broke at both the rear bracket and the exhaust pipe to muffler joint.
When I get a replacement I will put a rubber bushing on the top bracket to frame to reduce vibration stress between the lower bracket and the buggy frame from vibrations.
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My boy, now 13, took it out and ... the muffler of course fell off .... don't want to overheat any exhaust parts so no riding till a new muffler

SYCARMS

04-07-2019, 03:35 PM

mtbdudex

05-13-2019, 03:09 PM

If it is just broken have someone weld it. Make sure your engine bushings are good. I had a customer who had a problem with muffler cracking and it turned out his bushings were worn out. Your exhaust is mounted differently. Most buggies the muffler support mount mounts to the CVT cover where I notice yours mounts to what appears to be the frame. If you have movement in the engine it will eventually crack the exhaust where as if it were mounted to the CVT cover engine movement will not affect it in the same way.

Thx for feedback, it was totally broken off and I did not feel comfortable with welding it back together.

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Yes - it's getting stress on the weld because the engine is moving relative to frame.
I got a replacement from my dealer, put a rubber bushing into the mounting point
I'm expecting this to last 4 years now ... hopefully.
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mtbdudex

05-13-2019, 03:12 PM

The muffler can now slightly move with the engine and that rubber bushing absorbs it, so should reduce stress induced crack failure mode where the bracket is welded to the muffler ..

mtbdudex

06-15-2019, 11:25 AM

And after fixing the muffler, left rear wheel cracked by bolt pattern ��
I checked the bolt twice a year, this should have not failed

Uploading pictures soon

SYCARMS

06-15-2019, 02:21 PM

Recycled steel will do that every time.

mtbdudex

06-16-2019, 01:19 PM

Well here's the left rear wheel cracked, luckly we were not on some big outting this would have sucked and probably an incident would have happened

Removed:
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As on the go-kart
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The right wheel as mounted on the gokart does not show failure, but once removed you can see edge cracks on the circle.
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I decided to replace both rims, and all 8 bolts and nuts also, $97.88 total with tax.
Might have by end of this week.
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wildbob

06-16-2019, 03:44 PM

Ouch!

mtbdudex

06-22-2019, 07:09 AM

I got the new rims, called Belle tire they don’t do this kind of work.
Who dismounts and remounts 22 x 10 tires typically?
Or, is this DIY?

I’ve done bike tires, so just deflate the tire and remount it?
Also have a air compressor.

neo71665

06-22-2019, 11:03 AM

I have always DIY my tires but if you got an atv repair shop locally they should be able to do it for ya.

SYCARMS

06-24-2019, 02:13 PM

The biggest problem you would have is busting the tire bead. Two and 4 ply will bust easy but 6 ply you will need a bead breaker. In some cases 2&4 ply will require one as well. You will need a pair of tire spoons to wok it off and back on the rim. Some will use big screwdrivers but the can tear up a bead by tearing or deforming upon installing new tire and then you have a forever slow leak. Some walmarts who sell lawn mower tires will do them or any place who sells ATV or mower tires. So try other tire shops near by.

mtbdudex

06-25-2019, 09:56 AM

These are 6 ply so I will find ATV shop thx for advise.

mtbdudex

06-26-2019, 11:22 AM

Discount tire saved the day.
$32 total to dismount and then remount onto new rims.
Installed last night, fun to drive again.

wildbob

06-26-2019, 11:37 AM

Sweeeeeet!

SYCARMS

06-26-2019, 01:16 PM

Unless you change a lot of tires it is cheaper and quicker to just take somewhere.

El Chapo

06-30-2019, 03:05 PM

I was so wondering if anyone has yet to install a after market air filter for this thing

SYCARMS

06-30-2019, 06:19 PM

One of the first mods. most make. Usually using a UNI, K&N or R2C filters. You'll have to make up a redneck cold air intake and rejet the carb.

neo71665

07-01-2019, 03:53 AM

Don't think many of us here have a factory airbox anymore

El Chapo

07-03-2019, 09:47 PM

One of the first mods. most make. Usually using a UNI, K&N or R2C filters. You'll have to make up a redneck cold air intake and rejet the carb.
What do you mean reject the carb? I’m
Honestly a noob at buggy’s. It’s my first toy.

SYCARMS

07-04-2019, 01:34 PM

Replace current main jet with larger jet. By doing away with the stock air box and replacing with an open filter you will be bringing more air into the engine so you must also increase the fuel as well.

mtbdudex

07-23-2019, 08:13 PM

Help - look at this video, my front suspension lower joint ... seems loose, is this normal or do I have a real issue? Don't want it breaking on me or the boys.
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neo71665

07-24-2019, 05:08 AM

No the spindle shouldn't be like that. Looks like the nut on the lower ball joint has been loose for awhile. I bet it's wallowed the hole in the control arm out.

mtbdudex

07-24-2019, 07:43 AM

No the spindle shouldn't be like that. Looks like the nut on the lower ball joint has been loose for awhile. I bet it's wallowed the hole in the control arm out.

That nut is a cotter pin type, so it could not have come lose, right?
I never checked it because of the cotter pin.

Man if the lower control are hole is now oval, as it appears, I'll be really bummed. Guess I need to dis-assemble it and inspect it.

neo71665

07-24-2019, 09:23 AM

That nut is a cotter pin type, so it could not have come lose, right?
I never checked it because of the cotter pin.

Man if the lower control are hole is now oval, as it appears, I'll be really bummed. Guess I need to dis-assemble it and inspect it.

Shouldn't have if it was ever tightened up and the pin installed like it should have been. Any way I look at it I bet at least the spindle is gonna have to be replaced.

mtbdudex

07-24-2019, 11:02 AM

Shouldn't have if it was ever tightened up and the pin installed like it should have been. Any way I look at it I bet at least the spindle is gonna have to be replaced.

I just used it as delivered from the local shop I bought it from nearly 4 years ago.
Yea - my gut feel is same as you, replace the spindle, I'll post back after dis-assemble & inspection.

El Chapo

08-12-2019, 10:53 PM

Any idea how to tighten the chain on this bad boy?

El Chapo

08-12-2019, 11:35 PM

Hey everyone! Can you help me grow my Facebook room? Tao Tao Buggy Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1394105184078642/?ref=share

I’m from Michigan by the way. Maybe we can ride together sometime if you guys live close by.

mtbdudex

08-13-2019, 11:52 AM

Any idea how to tighten the chain on this bad boy?

You loosen up the motor mount top bolt, then the lower portion is a adjustment bolt, slowly adjust that till like 3/8" to 1/2" slack, then re-tighten the top bolt.
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mtbdudex

08-13-2019, 11:59 AM

I just used it as delivered from the local shop I bought it from nearly 4 years ago.
Yea - my gut feel is same as you, replace the spindle, I'll post back after dis-assemble & inspection.

Well good news is the lower control arm does not appear damage, but I feel the guys who assembled the suspension did not make sure the square portion of the top/bottom spindle fit correctly into each side.

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Shows the bad square washer and the lower control arm
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My local shop, who I bought the buggy from, has zero clue how to order the replacement washer.
Ha, they gave me these washer and suggested I try to file them myself, or take them to a machine shop
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Help:
Who has a lead on the service washer with square inside?

SYCARMS

08-13-2019, 12:27 PM

In any of my part diagrams it shows them with strut and not separate. You need to re tap those booggard up threads. You can get a rubber cup from the parts store. Won't be exact but close. As far as the washer goes it will have to be the same thickness as the old one and you will have to file it square just make sure the hole in washer is slightly smaller.

El Chapo

08-13-2019, 01:24 PM

Thanks for help with the chain. Mine has two huge bolts in the back. Also need help with changing the transmission oil.

mtbdudex

08-13-2019, 02:11 PM

I only change engine oil every 8-10 hours of running use ... never touch the trans oil, my understanding is non-serviceable

mtbdudex

08-13-2019, 02:12 PM

SYCARMS

08-13-2019, 07:34 PM

I only change engine oil every 8-10 hours of running use ... never touch the trans oil, my understanding is non-serviceable

Gear oil can be changed in any of these buggies. Intervals will depend on how much driving. I drive quite a bit and usually change every 2 years. You just pay attention to color of oil, when it starts getting darker change it. It is also important to use the correct oil designed for the air cooled engine since automotive oil has a lower thermal protection since the water cooled engines run 100+ degrees cooler than an air cooled engine.

El Chapo

08-13-2019, 10:36 PM

Gear oil can be changed in any of these buggies. Intervals will depend on how much driving. I drive quite a bit and usually change every 2 years. You just pay attention to color of oil, when it starts getting darker change it. It is also important to use the correct oil designed for the air cooled engine since automotive oil has a lower thermal protection since the water cooled engines run 100+ degrees cooler than an air cooled engine.

Interesting. I honestly don’t even know how to check the gear oil without dumping the hole thing out. Where is the plug? I did change my engine oil. It was super black. I put the recommended oil but synthetic. I posted some pics so you guys can see the rear end.

El Chapo

08-13-2019, 11:05 PM

So I’m having a small gas leak coming from the carburetor. When I flip the gas valve to on, without the buggy on. I get a small gas leak. Is this normal?

SYCARMS

08-14-2019, 11:57 AM

What make is your buggy? Can't tell by pics you posted. Does it have a neutral and does it have 2 cables for shifting? Any gas leak is not normal and dangerous. If it were to leak and catch fire while driving you may not know until you feel the burning.

El Chapo

08-14-2019, 12:58 PM

2017 taotao targa 200

150cc

El Chapo

08-15-2019, 12:12 AM

Has anyone messed with their Carburetor Jets?

neo71665

08-15-2019, 12:16 PM

Has anyone messed with their Carburetor Jets?

Just about all of us have. Buy a jet kit and tune it with that. On mine I have to retune whenever the temp drops below 50 degrees F.

El Chapo

08-15-2019, 12:26 PM

Awesome! Yeah I just ordered new jets and a uni filter and some uni oil. Going to get my hands dirty this weekend. I’m just not soo sure about tuning the carb. It’s a stock one that came with the buggy. I’m going to follow this link.

https://infocenter.buggypartsnw.com/infocenter/?page_id=173

El Chapo

08-15-2019, 12:47 PM

When I removed the air box, there was a bolt on the side that I had to unscrew. The bolt was attached to a line that went to the gear box. The conector to the gearbox had a white looking plug. Any idea what to do with it once I install the uni filter?

El Chapo

08-15-2019, 12:48 PM

Here’s the pic

El Chapo

08-17-2019, 09:04 PM

So I installed a new uni filter and upgraded my 95 jet to a 130. No problem at idle, but when I drive it and start pushing down half way on the gas it bogs down. Does this mean too much fuel?

neo71665

08-17-2019, 10:09 PM

You will need to read the plugs but I'm gonna say 130 is way too much jet. It also depends on elevation but I have a lot more done to mine and I don't even run a 130.

Go find a strip where you can run it wide open for about 500 yards and turn the key off without letting your foot off the gas. Let it coast to a stop. Get off and remove the plug (be careful it's hot). look at the spark plug.

https://www.tuningmatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/spark-plug-lean-rich-optimal-640x360.jpg

El Chapo

08-18-2019, 12:07 AM

Guys this is super helpful! Also thank you for the help! I’ll tune it tomorrow. Probably will start with 115

Sizing at sea level:
With UNI filter 120-125
With UNI filter and low restriction exhaust 130-135
With UNI filter, low restriction exhaust, A12 cam, performance coil & CDI and NGK Iridium spark plug 135-140

Test procedure:
1. Run engine at less than half throttle a minimum of 15 minutes to close electric choke
2. On a 300' or 100 meter stretch or greater, run the engine at wide open throttle
3. While still holding the gas pedal to the floor, cut the ignition
4. Remove the spark plug and inspect end for color
a. White - Increase jet size
b. Tan/Brown - Correct jet size
c. Black - Decrease jet size
5. Clean spark plug with brass wire brush and check the gap prior to next test run

Hints:
1. Change jet size by 2 or 2.5 for fine adjustment by 5 for coarse adjustment
2. Reduce jet size by 2 or 2.5 for every 1500 ft or 500 meters of elevation
3. Stock fuel delivery may not be sufficient above a 130 main jet and may require larger diameter fuel lines and less restrictive fuel filter
4. Once main jet is selected, the air/fuel mixture screw can be adjusted for optimum idle

ckau

08-18-2019, 08:44 AM

one thing these plug tests procedures never seem to mention is the potential for stripping out the threads in the head. Aluminum heads expand and will tighten around the spark plug. removing a plug while the head is hot can damage the aluminum threads. Give the head a few minutes of cooling time to relax the metal before pulling the plug, then make sure you can thread the plug completely back in by hand

El Chapo

08-18-2019, 04:40 PM

Speaking about plugs. What gap is recommended? Quick update though. I finally got the buggy carb and air filter tinned. 110 size jet.

neo71665

08-18-2019, 08:12 PM

one thing these plug tests procedures never seem to mention is the potential for stripping out the threads in the head.

Always use high heat anti seize on sparkplugs. The stuff I use is the copper not the standard nickel stuff. The nickel will work I just have had better luck on spark plugs with copper in my race trucks.

Speaking about plugs. What gap is recommended? Quick update though. I finally got the buggy carb and air filter tinned. 110 size jet.

I seem to remember .025 gap is what is suggested factory on most scooters. I wanna say I run my buggy at .028 but mine is bored and cammed.
110 jet sounds closer to home. I wanna say I only run a 115 on my machine. On mine I also find depends on the temp outside I have to retune, I call it swapping between a summer and winter jet. I also run a 28mm carb where I really should be with a 26mm so mine is on the ragged edge of tuning and can be pretty picky.

El Chapo

08-18-2019, 08:18 PM

Thanks for those tips. Mine is gapped at 25 and is copper to. Guys please join my “Buggy junkies” group on Facebook. It’s hard to keep up with a blog. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1394105184078642/?ref=share

I’ll make the first few of you guys admins.

Thanks for everyone’s tips on getting my buggy back up and running. The only thing I really need now is a new air intake tube.

neo71665

08-18-2019, 08:33 PM

El Chapo

08-18-2019, 08:38 PM

No problem bro! Thank you. You are now a admin.

mtbdudex

11-13-2019, 08:10 AM

My 13 year old son said "dad, I'm turning the steering wheel but it's not turning"
Upon checking it .... ugh, it's broke, the driver side spindle
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pass side spindle is ok
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I ordered a pair for $59 thru local dealer.
Also ordered those spindle washers with square center holes posted earlier, they are 0.25 each ..

They might be in early next week, I'll post pictures of tear down and build up.

mtbdudex

11-13-2019, 08:27 AM

2017 taotao targa 200

150cc

hey - your targa 200, does it hit 30-32ish mph??
my 150 hit's middle 20's , about 26mph-ish, just curious.

mtbdudex

11-30-2019, 03:14 AM

SYCARMS

11-30-2019, 10:38 AM

No problem with using them.

mtbdudex

12-01-2019, 03:15 AM

No problem with using them.

Thx - I've had this go-kart over 4 years now and it's given us many great memories.
This site is a great resource for info.

neo71665

12-01-2019, 04:50 AM

I run 23x8-11 on honda atv rims on my buggy. Hard turning they rub but otherwise they work just fine. Thats a killer deal with rims. I think my tires alone were $111 (GBC dirt devils) for 2.

mtbdudex

12-28-2019, 06:07 AM

I run 23x8-11 on honda atv rims on my buggy. Hard turning they rub but otherwise they work just fine. Thats a killer deal with rims. I think my tires alone were $111 (GBC dirt devils) for 2.

The wheels / rims fit fine and fortunately no rubbing on max turns either direction, just 1/4" or so clearance but no rubbing.

We installed the LH spindle, I had my 13 year old do most of it to learn.
Pretty easy actually.
It was cold, so used those infra red heaters and cardboard on floor.

The TX located distributor messed up and sent us 2 Left spindles, I'm getting the right Monday so will install that also, just so both are new and same level of usage.
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mtbdudex

12-28-2019, 06:14 AM

double - ignore this

mtbdudex

12-28-2019, 06:33 AM

Now - while riding it the 4 year old chain went, and my local guy won't be back at work till Monday Jan 6th!
Stopped by a motorcycle shop, they don't sell chain wide enough, I measured the sprocket at 9.2mm wide and chain 10.0 inner plate.
Pitch 11/16's (15.8mm), roller dia as 13/32's (10.0mm), pin dia as a "fat" 3/16's (5.0mm)
Is there online place I can buy from for chains?
I count 54 pins.

I have a 50 chain?
https://www.fbchain.com/fbkc-50-roller-chain-dimensions-35-ansi-b-29.1

and my local TCS has them in stock ... so buy it and cut to length??
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/tru-pitch-roller-chain-chain-size-50-10-ft?cm_vc=-10005

Also, need shocks, rears are gone, the fronts work fine still.
Do I buy just the shock and swap the spring, or are they a set?

mtbdudex

12-29-2019, 01:55 PM

Local TCS had this, holy smokes my old chain sure was worn / stretched.
Now I'll put new chain on yearly, got enough for it.
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mtbdudex

12-29-2019, 02:02 PM

The replacement spindle came in, putting on today.

My front tires 21 x 7-10's were badly worn, my dealer offered 23 7-10 as replacement with rims mounted $120 out the door.
they will then make the front end sit 1" higher, can't see how that will hurt anything.
Is that ok to use them? I've not put them on yet.
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Well I'm going thru my owners manual to see what it says about bleeding hydraulic brakes, nothing.

I see this thread here
http://www.buggymasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2583

However I did notice the tire size listed for front is ... 23x7-10's , while mine came with smaller 21x7-10's ... why'd I never notice that??
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SYCARMS

12-29-2019, 03:43 PM

Front tires won't make any difference in performance.

mtbdudex

01-02-2020, 01:52 PM

Tried the brake bleeding thing, etc, I just ordered a complete set of bleed brakes $150, what the heck why not.
The rotors are in good shape, I looked at the set with rotors but they were for 6-bolt rims not 4-bolt rims.
https://www.gopowersports.com/150-cc-brake-kit/

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mtbdudex

01-05-2020, 05:43 AM

Also ordered rear shocks, the fronts still fully rebound.
This buggy continues to deliver pure and simple fun, I'm 57 and grin ear to ear still every time I ride it.
My boys ages 14/15 and daughter 17 enjoy riding it also.
https://www.gopowersports.com/rear-shock-assembly-150-6-000-006/

metalstudman1

01-08-2020, 07:57 PM

Just did some catching up on the site and love your TAOTAO buggy and it's progress. I'm another "older" kid that loves playing in the dirt! The thing that impressed me the most in this thread wasn't the hard work you've been doing but was the pic of your son working in the cold on it! How did you get that to happen?

mtbdudex

01-09-2020, 11:45 AM

Owen truly likes riding the go-kart, and to help fix stuff.
The infra red space heaters helped also ... him and me, plus the cardboard trick instead of cold concrete.

mtbdudex

01-11-2020, 05:21 PM

Need so advice here on how to remove the shipping blocks between the calipers.

I took the old brakes and hoses out.
Installed the brake master cylinder, put each caliber where it belong routing wise.
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I can't remove the black shipping pad's that are on the pre-bled cylinders.
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mtbdudex

01-11-2020, 05:36 PM

I did not want to lose the bleed, but if the only way is for me to slightly loosen the bleed screw till that caliper pad comes out i can do that.

SYCARMS

01-11-2020, 06:29 PM

Remove master cyl. cap so that pressure has somewhere to go, then using a large pair of channel locks and compress piston. I've never run into this, they usually pull right out.

mtbdudex

01-14-2020, 09:37 PM

Remove master cyl. cap so that pressure has somewhere to go, then using a large pair of channel locks and compress piston. I've never run into this, they usually pull right out.

I tried the above, still grip too tight, or I thought, so I took a medium straight screwdriver and gently pushed on the black wedge, it came out.

Then I thought "cool, will be driving this tonight!"

but ..... the mounting plate is not correct for my front axle spindle, as can be seen on the picture markup.

I need a 1 5/8" pitch , the replace part mounting plate is 1 1/16", there was no choice on their website to check or spec that dimension, which causes not to mount as the brake rotor interferes.

I'd rather NOT take the caliper apart to swap the old one in ... will call the part supply company I ordered them from and discuss tomorrow my return / swap options with them.

Almost there, since were going snow skiing over MLK weekend I'll try and get the fix parts so we can then finish the job weekend of 1/25.
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mtbdudex

01-27-2020, 11:29 AM

Bringing closure to the brakes ...
I ended up getting another brake kit, this time from the dealer who sold me the buggy.

We installed them Sunday afternoon, and the buggy is 100% operational again.

Plus - we put new rear shocks on.

It's so much fun to ride, I should have taken an after ride shot showing all the snow in the buggy.
Reminded my son to get all that out before parking it in the garage.

My boys learning how to dis-asseble and assemble, how to use tools, proper torque, etc
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SYCARMS

01-27-2020, 08:49 PM

:party:

metalstudman1

01-28-2020, 08:43 PM

I'm happy that you got it working again! I'm still in a state of shock seeing your son working on the toy:hail: Can't get my son out of bed!!!

mtbdudex

02-10-2020, 11:33 AM

:party:

I'm happy that you got it working again! I'm still in a state of shock seeing your son working on the toy:hail: Can't get my son out of bed!!!

He actually enjoys doing go kart maint stuff.

Of course, it's working 2-3 times, and then the rear motor mount bolt breaks again, it last happend ... 2 years ago??

8mm 1.25 pitch x 110mm just gives me 3 full threads of engagement ... so I made the call and we are using it that way.
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mtbdudex

08-22-2020, 07:57 PM

I see Rural King is now selling these, my local one has 1 on display

It’s nearly identical to mine but actually seems some improvements.
I took pictures will post them later.

https://www.ruralking.com/yerfdog-169cc-9hp-adult-go-kart-bk200-yd

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mtbdudex

09-02-2020, 02:18 AM

This has a Coleman label on it, it has a few upgrades to my 2014 model I'll point out in next post - muffler and engine cradle, below are general pictures.
IMO they made it more robust, a good thing.

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here's the Rural King ID tag, it's built smack dab during covid-19 ...
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mtbdudex

09-02-2020, 02:23 AM

Brakes - this seems a weird master cylinder, can't see fluid level ..
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I like the dual engine cradle mounts over my single one
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mtbdudex

09-02-2020, 02:33 AM

The muffler is mounted to the engine, not the engine cradle, so it should suffer less vibration induced breakage like I experienced.
Plus it look more robust.
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Rear brakes and chain seems identical layout to my 2015 model
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mtbdudex

02-05-2021, 06:47 AM

From my 1970's engine class:
Intake-compression-ignition-exhaust

She's been working fine engine wise all this time, sometimes in extreme cold a shot of starting fluid to get going.

Now, engine won't start, working fine one day, nada next day.
I pulled plug, did the clean the plug with bristle and it back in, no start.
Replaced plug around least 1 year ago, so I'm guessing plug still good.

Pulled plug, had my son crank it as I watched for arc holding against cyl head... no arc.
So I'm guessing something wrong with the ignition ..

I checked to make sure all wires/etc are firmly attached, they are.

I've not dabbled with the ignition on this engine here, so advice is appreciated.

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SYCARMS

02-07-2021, 04:35 PM

Recheck with good known spark plug. Could be a bad plug.

mtbdudex

02-10-2021, 10:59 AM

Recheck with good known spark plug. Could be a bad plug.

Yep - agree I spent the whole $4 and got a new plug, just zero deg f here so will wait a few days and try it out... best case is bad plug ...
TIA

mtbdudex

03-02-2021, 12:26 PM

Surprised me, but the new plug worked!
Fired up immediately, I've never experienced plug completely Dead before.

Having fun again.

Sadly covid19 killed the local buggy shop by me where I bought the cart.
So if a part breaks/etc, it was nice to go there and get local service.

mtbdudex

03-11-2021, 10:40 AM

Well, fix something, another thing happens.
My son was having "fun" sluggin the buggy thru sloshy snow, then upon it getting stuck a few times, and him rocking it back-n-forth, the engine chain tensioner broke, rats :cussing:

Worse, the place I bought this from, and parts over the multi-year journey of owning it, went outta business end of last year :(

Help: Where should we now look online for suitable replacement?
I'm having my 15 year old son measure it, as learning what's important for fixing stuff to buy the right part.

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Yep - it's broke
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Removed and he's measuring it now
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mtbdudex

03-13-2021, 09:33 AM

I tried the links to part providers on 1st page here, no luck.
Then I did a search on "go kart engine chain adjuster"; lots of similar devices.

Need to find one with similar geometry.
I also think the side-side motion stability is important, so it should nestle same way.
If not sized, then with bushings.

google search
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This one seems leading candidate
Kandi Engine Adjuster Assembly for 150cc and 200cc GoKart
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kandi-Engine-Adjuster-Assembly-for-150cc-and-200cc-GoKart/273681455878?_trkparms=aid%3D1110010%26algo%3DHOME SPLICE.DISCCARDS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200220090753%2 6meid%3Dc205c9a328d14edb9bfad90ab130328f%26pid%3D1 00009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D273365726903%26itm %3D273681455878%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675 %26algv%3Ddefault&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

I sent him the below:
Hi - My 2015 Tao Tao 150cc buggy just broke it's chain tensioner.
I'm looking for dimensions on yours, do you have a spec sheet? I could not see it.
I want to make sure the bushing portion fits between mine, if needed I'll put washers or loose bushing so no slack.
My bushing is 65mm / 2 9/16" wide, 25 mm / 1" dia.
Also, what size bolt goes thru that bushing, mine measure 7.79mm / 5/16" outside thread?
And Whats the chain tensioner thread size, mine measure 15.89mm / 5/8" outside thread .
Overall length is 124mm / 4.9" from centerline of bushing to top of big adj bolt.

SYCARMS

03-13-2021, 09:44 AM

Take the broken one to a welder and have him weld it.

SYCARMS

03-13-2021, 02:28 PM

Also check that the engine bushings are not bad.

mtbdudex

03-29-2021, 10:22 AM

Take the broken one to a welder and have him weld it.
I found a local welder, its my plan B

Also check that the engine bushings are not bad.
they are fine, good point

Plan A:
I ended up getting the part on the right, similar enough I could make it work
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Installed
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There is zero slop, and able to tighten the chain.
The original had a bushing to lower the adj nut below the frame for easier tightening and wrench access, for this it was just too long so did without it.

mtbdudex

06-18-2021, 01:59 PM

Well - everything has been fine up to 2-3 weeks ago, then the engine started acting up under full throttle, then hard to start, then refused to start.

My son's 17 year old buddy, who knows engines a little, attempted to clean the carb, but the factory one float bowl is fixed, and the low speed fuel mix screw is missing.

So, I bought a 100% replacement kit
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GKXNLDX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Still would not start, so I went back to 4-cycle basics:
Intake, compression, ignition, exhaust.

Got a compression testor, and now appears it's low compression, says 60psi after a 1-2 seconds of cranking.
(edit after initial post: I see 125-150 psi is desired range, so definitely something amiss)
So ... what now? Take off valve cover and start from there?
Check valves seated, etc ... ugh, advice appreciated

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SYCARMS

06-18-2021, 06:16 PM

Did you have throttle wide open when doing test?

mtbdudex

06-19-2021, 11:44 AM

Yes, throttle open or closed no change.
I’m preparing to take valve cover off and see while cranking over valve proper action and seating.

metalstudman1

06-19-2021, 08:00 PM

Definitely check the valve clearances. Everything you describe sounds like a valve adjustment is needed.
By the way-my HF compression tester started showing 60psi & lower on good running motors after about 6 months from purchase/use, I know it's not accurate now as I tested a new engine (it tested 175psi @ shop) and a known (hasn't been running engine) test that was 110psi. I can't explain it but a motor shouldn't run below 60psi very well!

mtbdudex

06-19-2021, 08:26 PM

Quick valve cover take off showed nothing broken, and the 4 bolts holding valve were tight

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Here's a 5 sec clip of just turn over to watch
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Now I need to get engine at TDC and go thru the valve adjustment procedure, per the GY6 manual I downloaded from here.

Q: How to manually turn the engine, to get it to TDC properly?

metalstudman1

06-19-2021, 09:06 PM

I'm not a GY6 expert!Remove the CVT cover, I used the variator to turn the motor over by hand, the manual should show you where to find the TDC marks, the intake valves always seemed to get tight over time for me and caused a poor start condition.It's been so long since I've worked on one of these,sorry I can't be more specific.

SYCARMS

06-20-2021, 09:39 AM

With oil can squirt 2 squirts of eng oil in plug hole and redo test. If compression rises it is your rings and if it stays same valves.

mtbdudex

06-20-2021, 04:56 PM

Thx both metalstudman1 and SYCARMS, hope you enjoyed Fathers day.

Father and son mid-day project:
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A good learning moment for my son, as we both turned the engine over manually he learned basic cam/valve operation.
At TDC there was no gap, so they were not fully seated by the valve spring.

I set them at 0.10mm gap, used the 0.127mm as a no-go gage.
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The anticipation was there, as my son cranked it and it showed 140psi I shouted out for joy!!
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Went to Home Depot for some misc plumbing to route the new air cleaner past the frame
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Final routing, zip tied to engine cradle frame to minimize any vibrations
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end result:
Started right up, hip hip horrary!

Bonus is I instantly could notice the better power/torque, yep.
Guess when something slowly goes you don't notice it, then back to spec and "hey, that's nice and fun"

I let my son have the first ride, then I took my cruise on our property and private road, waving and smiling to the neighbors.
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mtbdudex

06-20-2021, 05:08 PM

With oil can squirt 2 squirts of eng oil in plug hole and redo test. If compression rises it is your rings and if it stays same valves.

Since I had the valve cover already off decided to confirm valve adjustment first, hoping that was root cause, fortunately it was.
Engine tear down I’d tackle if necessary, but I’ve been diligent on basic maintenance, oil changed and keeping dirt outta the intake, so hoping not. Fortunately the quick fix did the trick.

metalstudman1

06-20-2021, 06:35 PM

Happy Father's day- I'm so glad that was the issue & you managed to correct it.

SYCARMS

06-21-2021, 12:16 PM

Glad to hear it's back running again.

mtbdudex

06-23-2021, 09:57 AM

BTW - Going from zero clearance to spec clearance 0.10mm was about 5/8 of a turn on each valve.
Loosen the nut, the small shaft on top of valve stem has a flat on it, a really skinny flat, none of my ignition wrenches were small enough, so I took a 4" crescent wrench and used that.
Yea, if I knew the tpi could calculate it precisely...

Of course check once tighten also, well I snugged it, then check, then tighten it, then check.
No torque spec I found in the GY6 manual, so just tightened it to a experienced good tight w/o stripping the nut, via 1/4" ratchet.

All ready for upcoming July 4th gathering at our home, as were ready for a Post Covid 19 big gathering :D
Got 5 nephews and nieces in 3-7 year range who will want rides.

mtbdudex

02-07-2023, 11:23 AM

Well .. my GY6 has lost compression and won't start .. I thing this time needs a complete teardown and ring job... actually Summer 2022 it happened and been so busy sadly the go kart has been parked in the garage.
Glad to see this forum back ...
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mtbdudex

09-03-2023, 11:10 AM

Well the go-kart has sat in the garage too long! .. 2 kids off to college, son in high school senior, we have labor day weekend.

Still 60-ish psi .. did not magically fix itself
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So did tear down
Yep -same redhead boy he is 17 now, 18 next March
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mtbdudex

09-03-2023, 11:18 AM

Pictures, there is carbon build up on piston and in combustion chamber.
Yet, the cylinder wall feels smooth, no scorching, etc.

Is it possible some carbon is keeping the valves from seating 100% and that's why not 130psi?

I'm thinking this:
I'll clean the carbon off the piston and the combustion chamber, press the valves and clean with wire brush the valve seat.

Do a simple re-assemble and see if compression comes back up.

If not, then next step is piston removal and compression ring check/replacement right?

btw, I have never took the engine apart, no gasket at all.
Typically gasket between head and block I'm used to, these GY6 none?

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mtbdudex

09-04-2023, 10:58 AM

Owen and I cleaned the carbon off the piston and the combustion chamber and valves.
I pressed / held the valve open by hand, while Owen used wire brush to clean the valve seat.
Carb cleaner did a great job, sprayed it in each valve chamber, soak.
Next weekend will re-assemble.
Need to look at the GY6 manual for proper alignment of crank rotation, placement of cam, etc.

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Head gasket will re-use.
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mtbdudex

09-04-2023, 11:28 AM

Gy6 Manual .. seems basic enough.
Align F on rotor to crankcase mark
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Piston should be at TDC now.
Install cylinder head, install camshaft with T mark following page 17
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Finish with chain tension per page 18
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