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snap2 12-23-2011 05:34 PM

Yerf dog rear axle question
 
I was wondering if anyone has ever used a 1 inch diameter live axle on a yerf dog spiderbox? if so what should the over all length be? any info will help
thanks

ckau 12-23-2011 06:58 PM

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yea . I've been using the Azusa 1" flex proof keyway axle 42" long for several years. I bent one of the Azusa's until I added more bearing supports. The azusa I have now is over 3 years old and works perfectly

snap2 12-23-2011 08:14 PM

are those original hubs?

x-bird 12-24-2011 01:59 PM

i was wondering WTH my jackstands and rug went! LOL ...

ckau 12-24-2011 03:45 PM

Snap2 .. sort of, those are stock yerf hubs with the back half sawn off then welded to a splined machine coupler to fit the azusa axles.

X-bird.. Oh yea, about your carpet and jacks stands... Thanks! :biggthumpup:

x-bird 12-24-2011 04:11 PM

I'd have the exact same pics of my yerf ... if i worked in the living room. )) I've got a couple brake discs and a cable-activated caliper, thinking about a new axle, (stock one has a slight bend from snagging too many trees) new shocks and more travel at the rear. I take it Azusa is a good quality brand?

snap2 12-24-2011 04:18 PM

coll nice work like the bkake lines to

ckau 12-25-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by x-bird (Post 18936)
I'd have the exact same pics of my yerf ... if i worked in the living room. )) I take it Azusa is a good quality brand?

you mean everybody doesn't work on their buggy in the living room???:eek: I can work and watch Andy of Mayberry at the same time and the frig is just around the corner! :joke:
I honestly don't know if Azusa is considered a "quality brand". In my search for a possible replacment axle I found the Azusa. It fit all my requirements of size, length, correct ends and price in order make the conversion. The flex proof claim got my attention so I gave one a try.
And Promptly bent it!
Figured I'd give the axle one more chance by adding extra bearing hangers. ordered another axle and fabbed the hangers It works! the axle now is withstanding everything I try to run over.
But now I find the next weak link. I gotta find some decent sprocket hubs
This is a sprocket hub with the key sheared down the length. the hubs get beat out along the keyway then become loose and floppy I have to replace sprocket hubs every season.

GX150 12-25-2011 01:03 AM

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What about adding a locking collar to prevent splitting?

SYCARMS 12-25-2011 01:40 AM

Since my divource I can work on anything anytime I want in my livingroom, but I replaced my carpet with tile. Easier to clean up oil from before company comes over.

snap2 12-25-2011 03:11 AM

how much wider than stock is it?

ckau 12-25-2011 07:35 AM

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good question Snap, I don't remember! :doh:I belive the yerf stock wheel base is 42" if memory is correct . I use 9" wide rear wheels with a 6/3 offset so my wheelbase is somewhere around 52". I do remember wanting to stay under the maximum 54" wide wheel base allowed in state parks at that time.

Pete, I had considered your suggestion before but I doubt a locking collor would tighten the hub base enough. there"s no room to compress unless I split the hub center. What I want/need is something like this. I can find them with the 1" center but the total hub sizes are always too large to fit the 31 tooth yerf sprockets. I have bought several different variations, taperd sleaves, etc hoping to find one that can be modified but no luck yet. I did find one with the right dims. but after recieving the hub it was so cheezy and poorly cast I didn't bother trying it.
I probably should start another post on this subject as I don't want to stray from Snap's original questions.
I hear ya Tom! Nothing better than good pratical solutions! :laughing:

snap2 12-25-2011 11:23 AM

Tell me more about the splined machine coupler you used behind the hubs. I have been looking at the azusa axle but cant find any that are splined. Only threaded or clips I was thinking of using 4 on 4 hubs and drill the rims to match or maybe use a 4 on 4 to 4/110 adapter. What do you think?

metalstudman1 12-25-2011 04:25 PM

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Just for info's sake-This is a link to cheap hubs for the Azusa axles:
http://www.mfgsupply.com/53-681.html
You'd use the snap ring type axle-
Correct me if I'm wrong ckau- his wheel hub adaptor is keyed not splined

The pic's is a spare wheel hub for the "different type of buggy" & universal disk brake/sprocket holder made from billet aluminum and are exceptionally strong. The sprocket holder comes with multiple key ways, if one get's loose you can just rotate it.

metalstudman1 12-25-2011 05:16 PM

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Forgot I had these in the boneyard- 1" axle , I think it's 40-41"" hub to hub.

snap2 12-25-2011 05:23 PM

How well do the snap rings hold up? Do I need to use a locking collar? What if I threaded the end of the axle oh say 1 1/2 inches then used a locking nut and a locking collar behind the hub? I dont know............ just thinking out loud

ckau 12-25-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by snap2 (Post 18979)
Tell me more about the splined machine coupler you used behind the hubs. I have been looking at the azusa axle but cant find any that are splined. Only threaded or clips I was thinking of using 4 on 4 hubs and drill the rims to match or maybe use a 4 on 4 to 4/110 adapter. What do you think?

Sorry Snap, I ment to state a keyway coupler.
The ends of the axle have 2" step down to 3/4" with 1"3/8 length of thread on the 3/4 step down. The stock hub is cut down and drilled out to 3/4 then welded to the coupler. the keyed coupler fits the 1", the 3/4 hub center hole acts as a stop. Whole unit held on using a 3/4x18 "surelock" nut

Axle part# 1411-42
http://gokartgalaxy.com/deluxe_flexp...teel_axles.htm
shaft coupler part # 6412k45
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-sh...plings/=fiue2l

snap2 12-25-2011 09:14 PM

That is COOL. Never thought of using a shaft coupler. Doh!
Looks like I get to order some parts :)
Thanks for all the pics and info you've been a big help


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