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Old 09-01-2013, 11:08 PM
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Question crate motor AC or DC

Hi Folks,
can someone explain what determines whether your motor is AC or DC? Is it the stator or rectifier? I have a bone stock TM 150 XRX coming in a couple days, but I'm thinking of getting a crate GY6 motor to tweak out so when I get bored with the stock setup I can bolt in a beast. I believe the TrailMaster's are DC.. Is there something between the stator and the CDI that determines this? Can it be swapped? I see a lot of new GY6 motors on ebay that all look the same. Thanks in advance.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:28 AM
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Wild,

In charging systems, if the stator (coils of wire) are attached to the engine and are stationary, you will produce AC. This AC can then be sent to the CDI for the ignition and also to the rectifier / voltage regulator to charge a battery.

If the rotor contains the wire coils and a commutator, then it will produce DC.

From my understanding all of the GY6s produce AC from the charging system. However, if you have a DC CDI, the CDI gets its voltage to produce its spark from a battery. Therefor, the difference would lie in the buggy itself and not the motor. The wiring in the buggy with the DC CDI would have a wire connected between the CDI and the battery instead of from the stator itself.

So in theory, all of the electronics that come with the engine itself should be the same. The difference would be in how they are connected.
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:30 AM
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One of the best explanations of this AC/DC thing I've read! It's not in the motor, It's how the chassis is wired.
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:12 AM
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Thanks Toomany! I must have sifted through 600 posts and wasn't any closer to figuring this AC/DC thing out. AWESOME!
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:56 PM
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Pretty much what toomany said. I wondered the same thing, for a different reason, not long ago. Fortunately, there is a ton of info floating out there about the honda ATC's, and lotsa parts too!
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